Kirby v. Illinois

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KIRBY v. ILLINOIS 406 U.S. 682 (1972) United States Supreme Court CERTIORARI TO THE APPELLATE COURT OF ILLINOIS, FIRST DISTRICT No. 70-5061 Fact On February 20, 1968 a man named Willie Shard had his wallet stolen while walking on the street in Chicago. Willie Shard reported the robbery the next day stating that his wallet, travelers checks, social security and other things were stolen. The next day Police arrested two men a petitioner and his companion Ralph Bean in connection with a separate offense and brought them to the police station. The police learned of the offense against Willie Shard only upon arriving at the station. Willie Shard was called to come down to the police station, and upon walking into the building, immediately Willie Shard identified the two men, without counsel present, and before any formal charges had been made. History The petitioner and his companion did not have counsel present and believed they were not formally charged. They believed it was unfair that they never got a line up. A motion to suppress the identification was denied at trial, and the petitioner and his companion were convicted for the robbery. Issue Whether the sixth and fourteenth amendment rights to counsel should be applied to identification testimony based upon a police station show up that took place before the defendant had been indicted or charged with any criminal offense? Holding Judgement Affirmed Rationale In United States v. Wade and Gilbert v. California, the court had held that at a post indictment pretrial lineup, the defendants have the right to the presence of their attorneys. The court held that since the defendant in this case was not formally charged with a crime when the identification process took place, the rulings of Wade and Gilbert do not apply here. The court ruled that the defendant had no right to the presence

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