Arguments To Epicurus' Principal Doctrines

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Epicurus has his own philosophy about pleasure, desire, and justice that he stated in Principal Doctrines. Epicurus made up 40 quotes in Principal Doctrines and I will use several quotes from his philosophy to discuss about pleasure, desire, and justice. Pleasure III. The limit of quantity in pleasures is the removal of all that is painful. Whenever pleasure is present, as long as it is there, there is neither pain of body nor of mind, nor both at once. I have to disagree with this statement. Epicurus seems to see pleasure and painful as something too much interrelated or I could say it seems like a negative relationship, because in reality it is not always has to be this way. We could feel both pleasure and painful at the same time. I do think we should take a look on how we measure the pleasure and the painful itself. If the degree of the pleasure is higher than the degree of painful, I think we still experience the pleasure by might be ignoring the pain either body or mind or both. For example, a ballerina still experience pleasure from dancing even her toes hurt by using pointe shoes. Another example is I might have mild flu, but at the same time I still could enjoy pleasure by eating ice cream. So I concluded that the degree of pleasure or painful will determine what we experience next (whether it is pleasure or painful or nothing). There is also a question that comes in my mind, what about the feeling of numb? We could not feel either pleasure nor painful. VIII. No pleasure is bad itself: but the means which produce some pleasures bring with them disturbances many times greater than the pleasure. The definition of bad could encounter a lot of question. How bad? What does ‘bad’ refer to? But in some point I agree with this statement. Some people might gain their pleasure from experiencing something they fear or hate. A common example is that to be accepted

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