Reflection #1 Entry #1: Euthyphro In the Euthyphro, Socrates and Euthyphro are having a discussion about Euthyphro prosecuting his own father. Throughout their conversation, Socrates asks Euthyphro a lot of different questions trying to understand why Euthyphro is prosecuting his own father. Euthyphro defended himself by saying it is what is right, and that it doesn’t matter if the one is he prosecuting is a stranger or a relative, he is still a murderer. Euthyphro then gets into a discussion about what is holy and unholy, which Socrates has many questions about, but never gets a straight answer from Euthyphro. By the end of the story, Euthyphro says he has to be somewhere and just leaves Socrates, never fully answering his questions about what is holy.
The second horn says that since God is on the side of something therefore it is considered to be right or pious. Now, Socrates and Euthyphro was follower of the first horn of dilemma. They both thought that since something is pious therefore God loves it. It is evident from the statement, “Socrates proposes to amend the definition, and say that 'what all the gods love is pious, and what they all hate is impious.' To this Euthyphro agrees” (Plato, 2008).
The Definitions of Piety Socrates meets with Euthyphro near the king-archon's court. Socrates explains that he is under indictment because he does not believe in the gods in whom the city does believe in and Euthyphro is present because he has come to persecute his own father for unintentionally killing a murderer. Socrates then flatter Euthyphro about his knowledge on holiness/piety. Out of curiosity Socrates questions Euthyphro about holiness. This leading into the definitions of piety.
The beginning to the meaning holiness begins to show itself. Surprised by Euthyphro's willingness to prosecute his father on such questionable a charge; Socrates remarks that Euthyphro must have a very exact understanding of religious matters to proceed in such a way. Euthyphro proudly claims that he is an expert in all religious matters, and that this is what differentiates him from the common man. In response to this claim, Socrates suggests that perhaps Euthyphro could teach him about religious matters. That way, if Meletus were to prosecute him, Socrates could say that he is now under the tutelage of Euthyphro, whose authority on these matters is unquestionable.
Meanwhile messengers had been sent to Athens to inquire of the interpreters of religious concerning what should be done with the man. By the time the messengers returned the criminal had died from hunger and exposure. Euthyphro was willing to prosecute his father to cleanse himself and his family from the religious pollution caused by the murder. What is piety?” Socrates asked Euthyphro to answer. He asked Euthyphro this question to test his intellect and she if he is indeed as smart as he claims.
Deborah Avie, 9/13/2012, Phil, 3301(Bohorquez 1st paper) Although Euthyphro attempts to justify his actions by resorting to his religious knowledge and belief of piety having to have a universal understanding to both parties, relationships between justice and pious acts. Socrates argues that these actions or not justification but instead misguided, together Euthypro and Socrates have some kind of dilemma. Socrates try to get Euthyphro to agree that piety is a part of justice. This dialogue has implication for any ethical theory, or theory of value in general, that identifies rightness and wrongness, goodness and badness, which are being commanded or forbidden by a god, or gods. While attempting to explain the reasoning in Euthyhro piety is a part of justice, we first have to understand the Venn diagram of a just act, and a pious act, this method bring about
One of the charges in the affidavit written by Meletus against Socrates is that he is an evil doer "corrupting the youth" (Grube). Another charge brought against Socrates is that he is making up new Gods and disregarding the old Gods the Athenians believe in (Grube). Socrates starts his defense by addressing the jury and telling them that his accusers had a prepared speech, while Socrates' speech will be completely improvised (Perel). Socrates continued to further disassociate himself from the opponents by telling the jury to forgive him for his conversational tone in his speech, for that is how he best speaks (Perel). Socrates asked the jury to focus on the substance of his defense, not how his defense is delivered.
First Accusers a. persuading the audience since childhood (18b-c) b. claiming that Socrates is a wise man; teaches about the sky and the earth below and advocates atheism c. They can’t be named except for the comedic writers (Aristophanes) d. Socrates is fighting with shadows as these early accusers won’t testify e. All these accusations are false f. He doesn’t charge money like the others sophists (Gorgias et al) g. His occupation: searching for wisdom (20d) i. Chaerephon and the oracle of Delphi (21a ff) ii. No one is wiser than Socrates (21b) iii. Socrates tests the ‘wise’ or those who think themselves to be so (21b-e) iv. In his systematic investigation he has discovered those with the greatest reputation are most deficient (22a) 1. poets compose through inspiration (22b-c) 2. craftsmen: know things he doesn’t but think themselves To be wise in others spheres (22e) h. Socrates has become unpopular through questioning (23a) i. the god’s meaning: that man among you is wisest who like Socrates understands his wisdom to be worthless (23b) ii. Because of his occupation he’s not able to engage in public affairs (23b-c) iii.
Parth Kamani Socrates’ Philosophies At some point before the events of Plato’s The Apology, the Oracle of Delphi recognized Socrates as the wisest of all men. This culminated in Socrates earning the hatred of those he questioned. Ultimately, he finds himself in a trial on the charges of impiety and corrupting the youth. Socrates previously stated that the youth associate with him voluntarily. With this in mind, his first question to Meletus is: “Come now, tell these men, who makes them better?” (Ap.
First, he states, “In that case it’s what’s lovable to the gods that’s pious, and what’s not lovable to them that’s impious” (13). Euthyphro makes a claim that piety means to be loved by the gods. Socrates questions how something that is god-loved is pious and something that is god-hated is impious. Afterwards, Socrates comes to a new definition of piety saying, “Is it where the just is that the pious is too, or is it that where the pious is, there too the just is, without there being the pious everywhere the just is-because the pious is part of the just” (21)? Here, the definition of piety changes from being loved by gods to being just Kajol 2 or fair.